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1953
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Split screen

Post by 1953 »

Is there a way to work on two documents at the same time, in other words a split vertical screen like notetab? I have looked in the help menu and cant find anything. Forgive me if it is there and I have overlooked it. Many thanks.
Robert
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Split vertical windows

Post by Robert »

Hi, 1953!

Split vertical windows are a standard feature of all applications under Windows.

No one would think that you'd need help over this!

Here is the way.

Open any 2 documents, then launch "Window | Tile Vertical" from the Atlantis main menu.

Cheers,
Robert
1953
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Post by 1953 »

Yes but you cannot work on both documents as you cannot read the text.
Robert
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Split Windows

Post by Robert »

Hi, 1953!

Could you please be more explicit?

What do you mean by

1) "you cannot work on both documents"?

2) "you cannot read the text"?

As far as I know, no software will allow you to work on 2 documents "at the same time".

If you split the windows, you normally can read any of the 2. No one can read 2 different texts "at the same time".

Cheers,
Robert
1953
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Post by 1953 »

In notetab you can read two different texts with ease and cut and paste from one to the other, in Atlantis the text is so small it cannot be read. Many thanks for your help I hope I have made it clear.
Robert
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Split Windows

Post by Robert »

Hi, 1953!

In Atlantis, as in most other editors or xord processors, you can work on 2 or more documents by "tiling" the windows vertically or horizontally.

If you find the characters too small for comfort, there might be 2 different reasons for this:

a) the open documents have been created (formatted) with small font sizes, i.e. font sizes under 8 pts.

b) the open documents have been created (formatted) with "standard" font sizes, i.e. font sizes above 8/10 pts, but the zooming factor is too small.

Here are workaorounds:

1) If your documents have not been formatted with small font sizes, maybe your current zooming factor is too small.

Simply place your insertion cursor in the target document, then use the Zoom drop-down list to select any appropriate viewing factor.

Alternatively, you can use the "Magnifying Glass" mode (launch View | Zoom | "Magnifying Glass" mode). With left button clicks, you will increase the zooming factor, with right button clicks, you will decrease it.

When you have fond the appropriate settings; don't forget to toggle the "Magnifying Glass" mode off so that you can work with your documents.


2) If your documents have been formatted with small font sizes, maybe you can reformat them with bigger font sizes. Font sizes of 10 to 12 pts are considered standard sizes for the boby of texts. They normally make for comfortable reading.

Alternatively, you can use the same method as explained in 1) above and increase the zooming factor.

You should normally ba able to copy/paste from one document to the other without any problem.

Honestly, this has never been a problem with Atlantis!


A tip:

If you do a lot of copy/paste between documents, you might find it more convenient to use a third-party "clipboard manager".

Such utilities will store often use snippets of text for you to paste at leisure.

Also they will store all clippings from a document until you are ready to paste them into another.

This is often more convenient than to copy/paste single items one at a time.

I can recommend 3 very good freeware clipboard managers:

a) Clipomatic (simple and powerful)

available at http://www.mlin.net/Clipomatic.shtml

b) Yankee Clipper III

available at http://www.yankee-clipper.net

c) Dropper

available at http://www.astware.com


A final tip: don't forget that Atlantis has a very convenient "Clippy Bank" that can automatically store any item sent to the Windows clipboard. The Clippy Bank contents can be saved as file for later retrieval.

Cheers,
Robert
BuffyBot
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Split Windows

Post by BuffyBot »

Robert wrote:
If you do a lot of copy/paste between documents, you might find it more convenient to use a third-party "clipboard manager".

Such utilities will store often use snippets of text for you to paste at leisure.

Also they will store all clippings from a document until you are ready to paste them into another.

This is often more convenient than to copy/paste single items one at a time.

I can recommend 3 very good freeware clipboard managers:

a) Clipomatic (simple and powerful)
available at http://www.mlin.net/Clipomatic.shtml

b) Yankee Clipper III
available at http://www.yankee-clipper.net

c) Dropper
available at http://www.astware.com

A final tip: don't forget that Atlantis has a very convenient "Clippy Bank" that can automatically store any item sent to the Windows clipboard. The Clippy Bank contents can be saved as file for later retrieval.
Atlantis also has a clipboard history that automatically captures clipboard entries. It is separate from the Clippy Bank. You access it using the Paste icon drop-down. It doesn't allow storage of any of the entries (they are deleted after Atlantis is closed) or customization, but you may find it helpful. It stores the same number of entries that you have under Options>General>Remember Documents
1953
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Post by 1953 »

Oh dear what fool I am, many many thanks :oops: By the way it would be very useful to be able to drag and drop from one doc to the other, I have tried this and it does not work.
BuffyBot
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Post by BuffyBot »

Maybe if you try using a 'horizontal tile view' rather than vertical it might at least give you more readable text. It still takes up screen space and is hard to edit larger chunks of text. Maybe temporarily get rid of a toolbar or two for more screen real estate-- then tile it again. Not what you were hoping for, but maybe some day.
Robert
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Drag & Drop in Atlantis

Post by Robert »

Hi, 1953!

Currently, drag & drop is only possible inside single documents.

Drag & drop operations between different documents will only be supported in a future version of Atlantis.

Until then, you'll have to use copy/paste.

Cheers,
Robert
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Post by Shanforest »

"A final tip: don't forget that Atlantis has a very convenient "Clippy Bank" that can automatically store any item sent to the Windows clipboard. The Clippy Bank contents can be saved as file for later retrieval. "

Robert I just tried this out. But if I paste from the Clippy Bank it pastes ALL the bits I put in - I cant select eg my name, my address, my telno, my email, frequent phrases etc.

I know you said that eventually you intend a Clippy Library (what heaven) but I was thinking a quick staging post would be to have a toolbar link that offered a dropdown list of frequently used documents. It could have a document created via the Clippy Banmk as a "sticky" entry at the top or bottom of the dropdown list.

Like I have about 4 documents with telephone numbers, or my diary schedule, that I consult lots of times a day. I can often get them from the Open dropdown but not if I'm having a busy time and have accessed lots of stuff today.

It'd be great to have a dropdown where I could insert links to documents like these PLUS a clippy made doc with all my accustomed ID data and frequent use phrases. Then I just open Clippy1 and paste away from it - maybe it could float on top?

Shan (who has now paid you so feeling respectable!)
Robert
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Copying/Pasting in Atlantis

Post by Robert »

Hi, Shan!

Here is how to use the Clippy Bank:

1) Toggle the green Piggy Bank button ON. This will activate the "Clippy Bank collects data" mode.
2) Copy any relevant number of items from any document to the Windows clipboard (Ctrl+C). The Atlantis Clippy Bank will automatically store these items.
3) Then press F8 to open the Clippy Bank.
4) Select any individual item from the Clippy Bank with the mouse and/or keyboard.
5) Switch back to your document and paste from the Windows Clipboard (Ctrl+V).
6) Only the item that you selected from the Clippy Bank should get pasted, not all of them.

About the documents that you often use. Until Atlantis has its own Clippy Library, here is what you can do:

1) Place these documents in a special folder. When you need to copy items from these documents and they are not easily accessible from the Atlantis Document History, simply select all of them in the Windows Explorer and drag their filenames from their storage folder in the Windows Explorer onto the Atlantis title bar. They will all open in Atlantis.

2) Alternatively, you could use ClipOMatic (http://www.mlin.net/Clipomatic.shtml) and create a permanent ClipOMatic clipset containing the items that you often paste. These items will be present in a special menu that you will bring up in any Atlantis document by pressing Ctrl+Alt+V. You will then be able to click any specific item from that menu to automatically paste it into the Atlantis document at the insertion point (insertion cursor). Give it a try, it is very convenient.

Cheers,
Robert
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