ePub format

[Andremusic]

I am adjusting my own book now, according to the Reambrandt example. The only things that doesn't seem to get through, is the paragraph first line indent from every paragraph in my own book. On my iPhone it becomes left outlined. The italics, though are still there. That is great.

Also, in my original file, I use little pictures in between paragraphs, centered. On my iPhone they are very large, not so practical to I took them out.

André

[Andremusic]

I turned my whole book into an ebook now and it works great! Even the internet link that I put on the first page opens the web browser on my iPhone. The only 2 things that doesn't work are the first line indent (as I mentioned before) and the center option for the chapter headings. Maybe this is a Stanza thing, though.

I thought it would be nice to show what is possible so here is the link to my book, made with this new Atlantis function. Thanks again!

http://www.box.net/shared/23ufplk73k

André

[andygrunt]

A very trivial point and I only mention it as it's in a Beta version (and so wouldn't do much damage if it changed)...

I have to admit the epub format isn't something I'm likely to use but as an impartial observation, it seems a little odd to me that Atlantis is able to save in a format it cannot open.

Maybe it's just that it's called a 'Save' option. Perhaps it would seem more logical if it was called an 'Export' option?

Just a thought.

[Robert]

Hi,
First, I was unable to download André's file. When I went to http://www.box.net/shared/23ufplk73k and clicked on the download button, I got a message saying that I “wasn’t allowed to use direct links”.
Please take a look at http://www.atlantiswordprocessor.com/en ... php?t=1064 for ways to attach a sample file to your postings on the Atlantis Forum. This would be the most practical method for everybody.

Now if your cover image is too big for your iPhone screen, you can always resize it in MS Paint or in any other graphic editor, and use the resized image instead in your original RTF or DOCX file. Same thing with the pictures that you had placed to separate paragraphs. Resize them or use smaller pictures.
Also same thing with the “Title text”. Use a smaller font size for the “Book Title” and/or the “Heading 1” styles in the original Atlantis document.

If I use a first line indent in the original DOCX document, the corresponding EPUB file also displays with first line indent in ADE under Windows XP SP3. Unfortunately, I don’t have a iPhone on which to check this.
Same thing if I use a centered alignment for the Heading 1 style. They are centered in the corresponding EPUB file viewed in ADE. Maybe it is possible to install ADE on the iPhone?

Finally, on the subject of why it is called a “Save” option. Strictly-speaking, it isn’t a “Save” option, it is a “Save Special” option. Of course, it could be called an “Export” option but the change of name would only be rhetorical. It would not change the fact that a file is “saved” to your hard drive. The same is true of the “Save As Web Page” or “Save As PDF” commands.
Of course, it would be wrong if Atlantis had an “Open EPUB” command because it cannot open such file formats. But it is perfectly correct to say that Atlantis “saves” EPUB files because technically it does “save” these files. You do something similar when you “save” a RTF file as a DOC, DOCX, or PDF file. A new file is stored on your hard drive in a different format.
Honestly, I don’t see any need to call this function an “export” function. When “export” is used, it does not mean anything different from “Save”.

HTH.
Cheers,
Robert

[andygrunt]

Finally, on the subject of why it is called a “Save” option. Strictly-speaking, it isn’t a “Save” option, it is a “Save Special” option. Of course, it could be called an “Export” option but the change of name would only be rhetorical. It would not change the fact that a file is “saved” to your hard drive. The same is true of the “Save As Web Page” or “Save As PDF” commands.
Of course, it would be wrong if Atlantis had an “Open EPUB” command because it cannot open such file formats. But it is perfectly correct to say that Atlantis “saves” EPUB files because technically it does “save” these files. You do something similar when you “save” a RTF file as a DOC, DOCX, or PDF file. A new file is stored on your hard drive in a different format.
Honestly, I don’t see any need to call this function an “export” function. When “export” is used, it does not mean anything different from “Save”.

Yep - I can't really argue with much of that. There's no doubt the file is saved

I guess I noticed it as it doesn't follow the convention of other software I use i.e. when you save a file in a non native format (for that application), it's referred to as 'Exporting' the file. Likewise, loading a non native file format is 'Importing'. I would say 'Exporting' applies to saving a file as PDF although the likes of DOC, RTF, TXT etc files are text files that Atlantis can read, edit and save so are legitimate 'save' options.

Anyway, like I said, a very trivial point and one I'm unlikely to lose sleep over but I noticed it so thought it was worth mentioning.

[Robert]

Hi Andy,
In Word 2007, you have a “Save As PDF” and a “Save As XPS” command in the “Save As” (F12) dialog.
Word 2007 cannot open either file types.
So it is not always easy to say which commands are “standard”, “traditional”, or “conventional”.

Cheers,
Robert

[Robert]

Hi André,
Here is an article on ADE and the iPhone. “Publishers Ponder Putting E-books on the iPhone”:

http://www.publishersweekly.com/index.a ... =CA6458084

However, it seems that the deal hasn’t materialized yet and ADE only supports the following devices:

Sony® Reader PRS-505 and PRS-700 (see http://www.adobe.com/products/digitaled ... ystemreqs/)

You might want to have a look at some of the other eBook Readers available. A number of them are listed at http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book_software

Apparently, Amazon.com has released a free Kindle for iPhone software. But I was unable to find out where it might be available from. Some pages say at the Apple Store. I could not find it there. But I must say it is a rather messy site...

Apparently, you can also download a (free?) “ShortCovers” application for the iPhone from http://www.shortcovers.com/iphone

You’ll find other eBook Readers at the following Web addresses too:

http://readdle.com/products/readdledocs (ReaddleDocs)

http://ripdev.com/i2reader (i2Reader)

http://www.classicsapp.com/ (Classics reading platform for iPhone)

HTH.
Cheers,
Robert

[Andremusic]

Hi Robert, sorry for that. I remember last time was the same problem, and even now, I tried it on different computers here and it works normally. Maybe it's a firewall problem? I cannot attache the file because it says that epub files are not allowed.

"The Extension epub is not allowed"

But I put the file here instead, now it should work:
http://www.freedrive.com/folder/213533

André

[andygrunt]

Apparently, Amazon.com has released a free Kindle for iPhone software. But I was unable to find out where it might be available from. Some pages say at the Apple Store. I could not find it there. But I must say it is a rather messy site...

The Kindle app is only available on the American app store. There are a number of other readers available though e.g. 'Stanza'.

[Andremusic]

Hi André,
Here is an article on ADE and the iPhone. “Publishers Ponder Putting E-books on the iPhone”:

http://www.publishersweekly.com/index.a ... =CA6458084

However, it seems that the deal hasn’t materialized yet and ADE only supports the following devices:

Sony® Reader PRS-505 and PRS-700 (see http://www.adobe.com/products/digitaled ... ystemreqs/)

You might want to have a look at some of the other eBook Readers available. A number of them are listed at http://wiki.mobileread.com/wiki/E-book_software

Apparently, Amazon.com has released a free Kindle for iPhone software. But I was unable to find out where it might be available from. Some pages say at the Apple Store. I could not find it there. But I must say it is a rather messy site...

Apparently, you can also download a (free?) “ShortCovers” application for the iPhone from http://www.shortcovers.com/iphone

You’ll find other eBook Readers at the following Web addresses too:

http://readdle.com/products/readdledocs (ReaddleDocs)

http://ripdev.com/i2reader (i2Reader)

http://www.classicsapp.com/ (Classics reading platform for iPhone)

HTH.
Cheers,
Robert

Hi Robert,
yes, I know most of them. I am looking at Shortcovers now and putting it on my iPhone. Problem is mostly that it's not possible to upload my own books in these apps. I can only download from their stores. Only Stanza let me do this as far I can see. That is the program I use now to read the epub file I made with Atlantis on my iPhone.
The Classicsapp is beautiful, I have it, that is how I would like to read my book on the iPhone!


Andre

[Robert]

Hi André,

“Maybe it's a firewall problem? I cannot attache the file because it says that epub files are not allowed. "The Extension epub is not allowed"”

As a general rule, you should always ZIP all files that you send over the Internet, either by email, upload or download. No filter will ever block a ZIP file. On the other hand, other file types (extensions) run a high risk of being blocked by ISPs, firewalls, or anti-malware software of all kinds.

HTH.
Cheers,
Robert

[admin]

I cannot attache the file because it says that epub files are not allowed.

Our forum did not allow uploading EPUBs indeed. Now you can attach EPUBs to your posts without zipping them.

[admin]

I am adjusting my own book now, according to the Reambrandt example. The only thing that doesn't seem to get through, is the paragraph first line indent from every paragraph in my own book. On my iPhone it becomes left outlined.

Most (if not all) eBook readers do not support all the formatting options available in Atlantis. It should not be surprising when some type of formatting is not rendered by some eBook reader. But in most cases there are workarounds. In this particular case, you can replace first line indents with series of space characters, as shown in attached document.

[Andremusic]

Apparently, Amazon.com has released a free Kindle for iPhone software. But I was unable to find out where it might be available from. Some pages say at the Apple Store. I could not find it there. But I must say it is a rather messy site...

The Kindle app is only available on the American app store. There are a number of other readers available though e.g. 'Stanza'.

Plus you need to have the Kindle itself, because it syncs with the app on the iphone.

[Andremusic]

I am adjusting my own book now, according to the Reambrandt example. The only thing that doesn't seem to get through, is the paragraph first line indent from every paragraph in my own book. On my iPhone it becomes left outlined.

Most (if not all) eBook readers do not support all the formatting options available in Atlantis. It should not be surprising when some type of formatting is not rendered by some eBook reader. But in most cases there are workarounds. In this particular case, you can replace first line indents with series of space characters, as shown in attached document.

But I use a LOT of indents in my book, do I need to edit this by hand? For a find/replace to do, I have to be able to select the first line indent somehow, but this isn't selectable.

[Andremusic]

Another thing. I noticed that on my iPhone, in the book, the words are hyphenated at the wrong places. I write in Dutch, maybe Atlantis is not supporting this yet?

[admin]

But I use a LOT of indents in my book, do I need to edit this by hand? For a find/replace to do, I have to be able to select the first line indent somehow, but this isn't selectable.

You can use the Find/Replace feature:

1) Click the first chapter heading in your document.
2) Press Ctrl+H to display the "Replace" tab of the "Find/Replace" dialog.
3) Type "^p" (without quotes) in the "Find" edit box. Type "^p<space><space><space>..." (without quotes) in the "Replace with" box.
4) Click "Replace All" button:



The only side-effect of this approach is that the headings of chapters 2+ will also have leading spaces. But this can be also easily corrected:

1) Press Ctrl+Home to place the blinking caret at the top of your document.
2) Press Ctrl+H to display the "Replace" tab of the "Find/Replace" dialog.
3) Type "<space><space><space>..." (without quotes) in the "Find" box.
4) Click the "Format" check box below the "Find" edit box, then click the "Style" button from the small toolbar:



5) Double-click the "Heading 1" item in the "Style" dialog:



6) Empty the "Replace with" box if it contains any text.
7) Click "Replace All":

[admin]

Another thing. I noticed that on my iPhone, in the book, the words are hyphenated at the wrong places. I write in Dutch, maybe Atlantis is not supporting this yet?

Atlantis generates eBooks with no automatic hyphenation. So the hyphenation that you get in your iPhone is done by the iPhone software. Atlantis has nothing to do with it. Your eBook file contains proper language information (Dutch).

[Andremusic]

Ithink something went wrong here, I did exactly what youdescrbed but it shows now in the Adobe viewer like this:
Screenshot...

[Andremusic]

I fixed it, looks great now! Thanks!