Dir My Documents\Atlantis\ is unwanted

Polarigel · Post by **Polarigel** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:26 pm

Hi
I just upgraded to Atlantis 3.1.1.
Every time I start Atlantis the sofware creates a directory in "My Documents". I don't want any new dirs there.

I tried
1. starting Atlantis by command line (awp.exe /lsi /ssi /sfn "[Program Dir]l\Atlantis.ini"
2. Using an existing dir for he option "suggest saving documents to:"

How can I stop that behaviour? I downgraded to version 1 again and will stay there until this is solved.

Polarigel

Post by **admin** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:47 pm

You cannot stop that behavior. The "My documents" folder is meant for user-specific "document files" (editable files). The user's document templates, spellcheck lexicons, clips, favorites, etc are stored under "My documents\Atlantis".

StewCam · Post by **StewCam** » Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:12 pm

Atlantis 3 portable version can be set to use a directory on USB stick. If you stick with the portable version, the Atlantis folder in My Documents can be deleted and is not re-created. Works for me!

Polarigel · Post by **Polarigel** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 4:46 am

Thank you for your answer!

I would prefer a portable version to start with, but a portable Atlantis install seems to be possible only on USB-sticks (http://www.atlantiswordprocessor.com/en ... 4aa9907f64). I have a perfectly working harddisk, and won't install standard software on an USB-stick to make it behave on my system

Is there any way to make Atlantis on a harddisk believe it's installed on a stick?

Polarigel

Post by **admin** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 6:49 am

Sorry, this is not possible.

Post by **Robert** » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:56 am

Have a look at the following articles:
How to Move Windows 7 Personal Folders Like My Documents to Another Drive
How to Move or Change the Location of My Documents Folder
How to change the location of User Folders like Documents, Downloads, etc
How to Change the Default Location of the My Documents Folder
HTH.

lynneconnolly · Post by **lynneconnolly** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:54 am

Install it on a different partition.

mekineer · Post by **mekineer** » Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:16 pm

I notice in the executable for Atlantis that there is a dialog that exists, but I can't find it in the application. ChangeSysFolderFrm sound familiar? It is for moving Atlantis System Folders. Would that do the trick?

Post by **admin** » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:02 pm

This dialog is used when you choose a new folder for the Atlantis Backup Files.

mekineer · Post by **mekineer** » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:06 pm

Ah, too bad. I had my hopes up that it would be a way to move the Atlantis folders to where they belong, with the program.

Every program I use, that I want to keep, I try to make portable, and these program reside on the same partition as my documents.

Post by **admin** » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:09 pm

Currently you cannot create a portable copy of Atlantis Word Processor on a "fixed" (non-removable) drive.

mekineer · Post by **mekineer** » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:32 pm

Thanks for your response. I hope you will consider this a feature request.

Csiga · Post by **Csiga** » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:12 pm

admin wrote:The "My documents" folder is meant for user-specific "document files" (editable files). The user's document templates, spellcheck lexicons, clips, favorites, etc are stored under "My documents\Atlantis".

I think this is a misunderstanding of the Windows folder hierarchy and the User Data Deployment Guide. The My Documents / Documents folder is meant for user _created_ files, aka. documents. Application data and settings (templates, spellcheck lexicons, clips, etc.) should be stored under AppData/Local or AppData/Roaming.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/previo ... 9(v=ws.10)

mekineer · Post by **mekineer** » Sat Jun 29, 2019 1:17 pm

Thanks Csiga! That would work for me too.

Post by **Robert** » Sat Jun 29, 2019 2:58 pm

Templates and clips can hardly be called “Application data and settings”. The Atlantis default templates and clips are just suggestions: they can all be replaced with your own templates and clips which are then truly and fully user-specific.

mekineer · Post by **mekineer** » Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:07 pm

Robert wrote: "The Atlantis default templates and clips are just suggestions: they can all be replaced with your own templates and clips which are then truly and fully user-specific."

When saving your own template or clip, just like any other user created work, you could be asked where you want to save it.

I don't see the logic in the Atlantis developer's choice. I think any other location for the default templates, other than the user's documents, would be better.

Post by **Robert** » Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:16 pm

You might end up with several main folders for templates and clips. When creating a document from template, you’d have to know where you stored the template of interest and direct Atlantis to the appropriate folder. As for clips, which folder should Atlantis be displaying on the Control Board? The folder hosting its own default clips, or your own?
This would be quite cumbersome for Atlantis and for most end-users…

mekineer · Post by **mekineer** » Sat Jun 29, 2019 3:27 pm

I start documents from the File Explorer.
Perhaps some users only know to work from within Atlantis?

As for clips, it's the same. I now where my own personal clips are. They don't have to be mixed with the ones in Atlantis.

Here's a paradigm comparing clips library to a music library:

I have my favorite songs all organized into folders. I try to keep the number of folders manageable, so I can easily navigate to the genre of music I want to listen to. But some Music Player named Atlantis, throws new folders into my hierarchy, making it harder for me to find what I want. You see, I don't really care for the atlantis music genres. I have my own.

Maybe the developer really likes his genres, but as life would have it, not everyone likes the same things.

Post by **admin** » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:29 pm

Most of the user-specific files of Atlantis Word Processor should not be stored under hidden folders. This is because users should have a convenient way to access them in order to modify, delete or backup them.

Storing such files under the "My documents" folder is completely acceptable and widely used by other popular applications.

Post by **Robert** » Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:34 pm

You cannot create a document from a template if you start from File Explorer. It has to be done from within Atlantis.
You cannot use the Atlantis Clip Library if you have placed your own clips in a different folder from the default folder.
If you only work from File Explorer, you miss the practicality of the Atlantis Clip library and the “Create new document from template” command.
In any case, if your personal folders are well-organized, it should be quite easy to ignore the Atlantis folder in any folder hierarchy within File Explorer.