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McGareth
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resetting default

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My Atlantis is set to a certain default format for fonts,font size, justification, etc. How do I reset this formatting? I have read through 9 pages of the forum topics and found nothing relating to my problem. My desire is, I want to be able to paste material into a new Atlantis document retaining the format of the pasted document from wherever it originates. Gary P.
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The original formatting is normally retained if you use Ctrl+V to paste.
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Robert - thanks, but that does not work. Any other suggestions? There has to be a way, even if I have to do away with the default settings. Gary
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Gary,

You could try Format | Style. Choose "Normal" and hit the "Apply"-button.

Jannik
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McGareth wrote:I want to be able to paste material into a new Atlantis document retaining the format of the pasted document from wherever it originates.
Some clarification might be required here. What exactly do you mean by "I want to be able to paste material into a new Atlantis document retaining the format of the pasted document from wherever it originates"?

Do you want to copy text from the source document and paste it into the target document so that

the pasted text keeps the formatting it had in the source document,

or

the pasted text acquires the formatting characteristics of the text found at the insertion point?

Also what exactly do you mean by "the format of the pasted document"? What formatting characteristics do you have in mind?
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Post by McGareth »

Robert - this is what I wish to do: I "want to copy text from the source document and paste it into the [Atlantis] target document so that the pasted text keeps the formatting it had in the source document." If I copy something from any source, say, for example, Dictionary.com, and paste it into Atlantis, I wish it to retain all the italics, underlining such as titles of books, etc., when pasted.

The suggestion Jarrik gave me - see above - works partly, but not completely.

thanks to both of you and any others for the help so far. Gary P.
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McGareth wrote:If I copy something from any source, say, for example, Dictionary.com, and paste it into Atlantis, I wish it to retain all the italics, underlining such as titles of books, etc., when pasted.
Hi,
I just went to http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday, and copied the October 2 Word of the Day article from that page.
I pasted the clipboard contents into a new Atlantis document. I got something pretty close to the original, except that the "supervene" heading got pasted in non-bold characters and the hyperlinks were plain blue (standard "Web-safe" colour, RGB:0,0,255), instead of some custom lighter shade of blue (RGB: 17,102,153). The original background colouring was also lost.
All this is due to the fact that Atlantis pastes the Windows clipboard contents as RTF. If you used "Paste Special > Paste as RTF" in MS Word, you would get the same results as you are getting in Atlantis.
You can expect Atlantis to paste Web pages as the original only when it has support for tables and the HTML clipboard format. These features are not yet implemented in Atlantis but will be in the not too distant future.
But note that some Web pages are structured in such a complex way (style sheets, ActiveX, Javascript elements, etc) that you won't get an exact replica of the original even if you use the HTML clipboard contents. In some cases, things get too complicated for the Windows rendering engine (HTML code to HTML clipboard format).
As a general rule, Web pages should be created and displayed with appropriate dedicated tools. Copying/pasting into a word processor document will often entail loss or distortion of the original Web page formatting.

So you'll need to make a few manual adjustments whenever you copy/paste Web pages into Atlantis. Strictly-speaking, Web pages are not "documents". At least, not in the same sense as RTF or DOC files are "documents".

Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Robert
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Post by McGareth »

Yes, Robert, that helped very much, and thank you. The only word processor I have found that works as I want is Open Office; however, Open Office lacks in many other ways. There must be 297 reasons for me to stick with Atlantis!! I have also tried Jarte and Abiword. Atlantis will do. It is well worth the few dollars it cost me.

Thanks also to Jannik who helped me, and apologies for mispelling the name earlier. I appreciate all the help.
Gary, aka McGareth
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McGareth wrote:The only word processor I have found that works as I want is Open Office; however, Open Office lacks in many other ways. There must be 297 reasons for me to stick with Atlantis!
Hi,
I went to http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday and copied the October 3 Word of the Day article. I pasted it into a new OpenOffice.org Writer document (version 2.0). I got exactly the same results as I had in Atlantis.
So OpenOffice.org Writer does not fare any better than Atlantis in this respect. Even if you use the clipboard HTML format in OpenOffice.org Writer ("Paste Special > Paste as HTML"), the Web text does not get pasted as the original. You can conclude from this that OpenOffice.org Writer has no proper support for the clipboard HTML format. We hope to do better when Atlantis does have support for the clipboard HTML format.

Cheers,
Robert
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Robert wrote:
McGareth wrote:The only word processor I have found that works as I want is Open Office; however, Open Office lacks in many other ways. There must be 297 reasons for me to stick with Atlantis!
Hi,
I went to http://dictionary.reference.com/wordoftheday and copied the October 3 Word of the Day article. I pasted it into a new OpenOffice.org Writer document (version 2.0). I got exactly the same results as I had in Atlantis.
So OpenOffice.org Writer does not fare any better than Atlantis in this respect. Even if you use the clipboard HTML format in OpenOffice.org Writer ("Paste Special > Paste as HTML"), the Web text does not get pasted as the original. You can conclude from this that OpenOffice.org Writer has no proper support for the clipboard HTML format. We hope to do better when Atlantis does have support for the clipboard HTML format.

Cheers,
Robert
Robert,

Actually, Atlantis does a much better job than OpenOffice.org Writer when content is copied in Internet Explorer, since it preserves all links whereas OpenOffice.org breaks all links within the domain of the source. On the other hand, Atlantis does a pretty poor job of displaying content that is captured in FireFox 2.
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The problem is that Firefox does not generate the RTF data for the clipboard. Since the present version of Atlantis does not support pasting HTML, it has to paste plain text generated by Firefox.
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