Saving Styles
Saving Styles
I know I can import my own heading styles from a document I have previously created, but is it possible to permanently save my styles and make them part of my arsenal of tools, ready to be applied to any document?
Importing them for every new document is getting old.
Regards,
Paul
Importing them for every new document is getting old.
Regards,
Paul
Hi Paul,
You can go about this in 2 ways.
1. You can create a template that you would use to create any new document. Of course, this template should include all of your own styles. After this, you would create any new document through “File | New > Create From Template”, and these new documents would automatically have all your styles (no need to import them any more). Note that Atlantis has a very convenient toolbar button for this command: “Create new document from template”. I have put this button on my Atlantis toolbar next to “Create a new document”, and I use it very often.
Here are the steps to create this kind of “master template”:
a. Press “Ctrl+N” to create a new document with default settings.
b. Import all the styles that are part of your “arsenal of tools”.
c. Save this template through “File | Save Special > Save As Template…” Give it any suitable (mnemonic) name.
From then on, when you want to create a new document having the same styles, use “File | New > Create From Template”. Or more conveniently, press the corresponding toolbar button, and direct Atlantis to the appropriate template. Atlantis will automatically create a new document including your styles.
Note that with this method you can have different templates for different purposes.
2. You can go the whole hog, and customize the default template Atlantis uses to create all new documents when you press “Ctrl+N” or use “File | New > Document”.
Here are the steps:
a. Click “File | Document Templates…”
b. In the “Choose Document Template” dialog, select the “Normal.rtf” template (it is the default template in Atlantis). Open it.
c. Import all your styles into this “Normal.rtf” template, and save the template (“Ctrl+S”).
From then on, whenever you create new documents through “Ctrl+N” or the corresponding toolbar button, they will include your styles by default.
HTH.
Wishing you all a Happy New Year!
Robert
You can go about this in 2 ways.
1. You can create a template that you would use to create any new document. Of course, this template should include all of your own styles. After this, you would create any new document through “File | New > Create From Template”, and these new documents would automatically have all your styles (no need to import them any more). Note that Atlantis has a very convenient toolbar button for this command: “Create new document from template”. I have put this button on my Atlantis toolbar next to “Create a new document”, and I use it very often.
Here are the steps to create this kind of “master template”:
a. Press “Ctrl+N” to create a new document with default settings.
b. Import all the styles that are part of your “arsenal of tools”.
c. Save this template through “File | Save Special > Save As Template…” Give it any suitable (mnemonic) name.
From then on, when you want to create a new document having the same styles, use “File | New > Create From Template”. Or more conveniently, press the corresponding toolbar button, and direct Atlantis to the appropriate template. Atlantis will automatically create a new document including your styles.
Note that with this method you can have different templates for different purposes.
2. You can go the whole hog, and customize the default template Atlantis uses to create all new documents when you press “Ctrl+N” or use “File | New > Document”.
Here are the steps:
a. Click “File | Document Templates…”
b. In the “Choose Document Template” dialog, select the “Normal.rtf” template (it is the default template in Atlantis). Open it.
c. Import all your styles into this “Normal.rtf” template, and save the template (“Ctrl+S”).
From then on, whenever you create new documents through “Ctrl+N” or the corresponding toolbar button, they will include your styles by default.
HTH.
Wishing you all a Happy New Year!
Robert
Saving Styles Again
To open up an old wound...
I was able to save templates until I upgraded to version 1.6.5.8. but this version won't let me save them at all. I get the message:
Document templates should be stored under this folder (or any of its sub folders): c:\Users\Myname\Documents\Atlantis\Templates\
Then it returns me to the Save Special dialog. In short, I can no longer open or save a template.
Any suggestions?
Regards,
Paul
I was able to save templates until I upgraded to version 1.6.5.8. but this version won't let me save them at all. I get the message:
Document templates should be stored under this folder (or any of its sub folders): c:\Users\Myname\Documents\Atlantis\Templates\
Then it returns me to the Save Special dialog. In short, I can no longer open or save a template.
Any suggestions?
Regards,
Paul
Hi Paul,
Sorry to hear you’ve run into trouble. Maybe for some reason your templates files or folder weren’t transferred properly when Atlantis got updated and moved files and folders around.
Could you please check if “C:\Users\<user_name>\My Documents\Atlantis\Templates” does exist on your system? If it does exist, does it contain any templates? If not, try to find out where your Atlantis templates are currently located. And move them to “C:\Users\<user_name>\My Documents\Atlantis\Templates” where Atlantis is likely to look for them.
Also try clicking “File | New > Create from Template…” This should open the “Create Document From Template” dialog. The templates should be visible in this dialog and be located under “<Desktop>\My Documents\Atlantis\Templates”. If they are not present in there, try to move them manually.
Note that Atlantis will actually look for your templates in “My Documents\Atlantis\Templates”, —wherever your “My Documents” folder might be. This is because the Windows “My Documents” folder does not have to be either on drive “C:” or in “Users\<user_name>”. You can move it to any other more convenient drive or location. To avoid clutter on my “C:” drive, I have personally moved my Windows “C:\Users\<user_name>\My Documents” folder to “F:\My Documents”. Here is how this is done:
1. Open Windows Explorer.
2. Right-click the “My Documents” folder.
3. Choose “Properties” from the menu.
4. Press the “Move…” button.
5. Direct Windows to the desired new location for your “My Documents” folder. Note that this will affect all applications running on your system.
6. OK out of all open dialogs. Windows will transfer all related files and folders to the new location.
You will need to reboot your system for this to take full effect.
HTH.
Cheers,
Robert
Sorry to hear you’ve run into trouble. Maybe for some reason your templates files or folder weren’t transferred properly when Atlantis got updated and moved files and folders around.
Could you please check if “C:\Users\<user_name>\My Documents\Atlantis\Templates” does exist on your system? If it does exist, does it contain any templates? If not, try to find out where your Atlantis templates are currently located. And move them to “C:\Users\<user_name>\My Documents\Atlantis\Templates” where Atlantis is likely to look for them.
Also try clicking “File | New > Create from Template…” This should open the “Create Document From Template” dialog. The templates should be visible in this dialog and be located under “<Desktop>\My Documents\Atlantis\Templates”. If they are not present in there, try to move them manually.
Note that Atlantis will actually look for your templates in “My Documents\Atlantis\Templates”, —wherever your “My Documents” folder might be. This is because the Windows “My Documents” folder does not have to be either on drive “C:” or in “Users\<user_name>”. You can move it to any other more convenient drive or location. To avoid clutter on my “C:” drive, I have personally moved my Windows “C:\Users\<user_name>\My Documents” folder to “F:\My Documents”. Here is how this is done:
1. Open Windows Explorer.
2. Right-click the “My Documents” folder.
3. Choose “Properties” from the menu.
4. Press the “Move…” button.
5. Direct Windows to the desired new location for your “My Documents” folder. Note that this will affect all applications running on your system.
6. OK out of all open dialogs. Windows will transfer all related files and folders to the new location.
You will need to reboot your system for this to take full effect.
HTH.
Cheers,
Robert
Hi Robert,
Yes, the templates are all in the place you mentioned. Atlantis shows them in this default location as does Windows Explorer. It just won't let me save a new (modified) template. I get the information dialog as noted in my last message. The only possible response to the dialog is to click the 'Ok' button. Having done that it returns me to the 'Save Special' dialog.
Opening a new document loads the default (normal) template, but I cannot save any new template I create.
Having said all that, I just found that the read-only attributes for the existing templates are checked. I can uncheck and apply the change but it won't stick. Read-only seems to apply to not just the files, but the directories they live in, all the way up to 'Users'. Unchecking the read-only is possible but, once again, it won't stick. I tried moving the templates to the Atlantis directory but that doesn't work either - I get the same message. I have full admin privileges for the machine. This looks like a Windows 7 Issue. I have encountered it before and solved it, but I don't remember how I did it.
Regards,
Paul
W7 Home Premium
Yes, the templates are all in the place you mentioned. Atlantis shows them in this default location as does Windows Explorer. It just won't let me save a new (modified) template. I get the information dialog as noted in my last message. The only possible response to the dialog is to click the 'Ok' button. Having done that it returns me to the 'Save Special' dialog.
Opening a new document loads the default (normal) template, but I cannot save any new template I create.
Having said all that, I just found that the read-only attributes for the existing templates are checked. I can uncheck and apply the change but it won't stick. Read-only seems to apply to not just the files, but the directories they live in, all the way up to 'Users'. Unchecking the read-only is possible but, once again, it won't stick. I tried moving the templates to the Atlantis directory but that doesn't work either - I get the same message. I have full admin privileges for the machine. This looks like a Windows 7 Issue. I have encountered it before and solved it, but I don't remember how I did it.
Regards,
Paul
W7 Home Premium
I suggest you try to reclaim ownership of your “My Documents” folder and of its sub-folders. Here is how to go about it:
1. Open Windows Explorer, and go to your “My Documents” folder.
2. Right-click this “My Documents” folder name in Windows Explorer.
3. Click the “Security” tab at the top.
4. On the “Security” tab, press the “Advanced” button.
5. In the “Advanced Security Settings” dialog, click to display the “Owner” tab.
6. Highlight your user account name and press the “Edit” button.
6. Are the “Full Control” and “Take Ownership” boxes checked? If not, check the “Full Control” box. All the other boxes will automatically be checked.
7. OK out of all open dialogs.
8. In Atlantis, try saving a document as a “template”. Does it work any better?
HTH.
Cheers,
Robert
1. Open Windows Explorer, and go to your “My Documents” folder.
2. Right-click this “My Documents” folder name in Windows Explorer.
3. Click the “Security” tab at the top.
4. On the “Security” tab, press the “Advanced” button.
5. In the “Advanced Security Settings” dialog, click to display the “Owner” tab.
6. Highlight your user account name and press the “Edit” button.
6. Are the “Full Control” and “Take Ownership” boxes checked? If not, check the “Full Control” box. All the other boxes will automatically be checked.
7. OK out of all open dialogs.
8. In Atlantis, try saving a document as a “template”. Does it work any better?
HTH.
Cheers,
Robert
Hi Robert,
Yes, I have full ownership. All 'Full Control' checkmarks are present. I did manage to solve the problem, though I'm still puzzled at the method.
If I open Atlantis and then try to open a template, I get the 'Document template should be stored under this folder...' message (same message regardless of whether I'm trying to open or save). If instead I go to Windows Explorer and right-click a template (say the Normal template), then click 'Open with' and select Atlantis, everything works from then on. I am able to create and save templates without difficulty.
The underlying problem may forever remain a mystery, but at least I have a workaround.
Thanks for your help,
Paul
Yes, I have full ownership. All 'Full Control' checkmarks are present. I did manage to solve the problem, though I'm still puzzled at the method.
If I open Atlantis and then try to open a template, I get the 'Document template should be stored under this folder...' message (same message regardless of whether I'm trying to open or save). If instead I go to Windows Explorer and right-click a template (say the Normal template), then click 'Open with' and select Atlantis, everything works from then on. I am able to create and save templates without difficulty.
The underlying problem may forever remain a mystery, but at least I have a workaround.
Thanks for your help,
Paul
Have you got full ownership of the “My Documents\Atlantis\Templates” folder itself? Is this folder “read-only”?
You could try to create a new Windows user account and reinstall Atlantis for that account. If it solves the “Template” folder problem, then you have a corrupted user profile. Have a look at http://itexpertvoice.com/home/fixing-th ... der-blues/, and http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Wind ... er-profile
HTH.
Cheers,
Robert
You could try to create a new Windows user account and reinstall Atlantis for that account. If it solves the “Template” folder problem, then you have a corrupted user profile. Have a look at http://itexpertvoice.com/home/fixing-th ... der-blues/, and http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/Wind ... er-profile
HTH.
Cheers,
Robert
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Hi Robert,
That seems to be the problem - I don't have full control over the templates folder. I can change the attribute byte but it resets to 'read-only' immediately. Probably a corrupted user profile, as you say. I'm sure I'll have fun fixing that. Thanks for the links and for your help.
Regards,
Paul
That seems to be the problem - I don't have full control over the templates folder. I can change the attribute byte but it resets to 'read-only' immediately. Probably a corrupted user profile, as you say. I'm sure I'll have fun fixing that. Thanks for the links and for your help.
Regards,
Paul
Hi Paul,
First note that I have corrected the first Web link that I posted in my previous message. The automatic URL parsing had wrongly included the comma in the URL. The correct URL is http://itexpertvoice.com/home/fixing-th ... der-blues/.
Also note that Windows systematically assigns the “read-only” attribute to all folders that it regards as “special folders”. This is explained on the above page, and at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326549.
This said, you could try to create a new user account as suggested at http://itexpertvoice.com/home/fixing-th ... der-blues/.
HTH.
Cheers,
Robert
First note that I have corrected the first Web link that I posted in my previous message. The automatic URL parsing had wrongly included the comma in the URL. The correct URL is http://itexpertvoice.com/home/fixing-th ... der-blues/.
Also note that Windows systematically assigns the “read-only” attribute to all folders that it regards as “special folders”. This is explained on the above page, and at http://support.microsoft.com/kb/326549.
This said, you could try to create a new user account as suggested at http://itexpertvoice.com/home/fixing-th ... der-blues/.
HTH.
Cheers,
Robert
Hi Robert,
Thanks for the updated link. Having tried to repair my user profile and discovered that W7 still insists on marking the folders in question as read-only, I tried to change the attribute byte of the templates folder using the command line interface. No luck there either. I think the fix for this issue (at least as far as Atlantis is concerned) is to revert to a prior version of Atlantis (it worked fine for me). I can't see a download link for v1.6.5.7 on your web site. Any idea where I can find it?
Can I install the earlier version over the later, or will I have to uninstall 1.6.5.8 first?
Regards,
Paul
Thanks for the updated link. Having tried to repair my user profile and discovered that W7 still insists on marking the folders in question as read-only, I tried to change the attribute byte of the templates folder using the command line interface. No luck there either. I think the fix for this issue (at least as far as Atlantis is concerned) is to revert to a prior version of Atlantis (it worked fine for me). I can't see a download link for v1.6.5.7 on your web site. Any idea where I can find it?
Can I install the earlier version over the later, or will I have to uninstall 1.6.5.8 first?
Regards,
Paul
Hi Paul,
It seems that Atlantis 1.6.5.7 is still available from http://majorgeeks.com/Atlantis_Word_Pro ... d7380.html.
This said, I still think you should try to create a new Windows user account and install Atlantis 1.6.5.8 for that account. Creating (and removing) a new Windows user account is as easy as ABC.
HTH.
Cheers,
Robert
It seems that Atlantis 1.6.5.7 is still available from http://majorgeeks.com/Atlantis_Word_Pro ... d7380.html.
This said, I still think you should try to create a new Windows user account and install Atlantis 1.6.5.8 for that account. Creating (and removing) a new Windows user account is as easy as ABC.
HTH.
Cheers,
Robert
Thanks Robert. I did create a new account but it reverted to W7 default desktop and didn't honor my customization. I really don't want to mess with setting that up again.
Also, as I understand the information offered at the link you provided, W7 will always set the Users folders to read only by default, and it cannot be changed from Windows Explorer. I found this to be true in the new account I created: Templates folder was still read only.
If Atlantis ever comes out with an upgrade that includes tables, then I'll rethink my position. For right now, as the only user of my PC, I see no benefit in the current upgrade so I'll install the previous version. I suspect I'll need to get out my trusty carving knife and scrape the new version off the hard drive first (after safeguarding my ini files) but I'm not afraid.
Thanks again and best regards,
Paul
Also, as I understand the information offered at the link you provided, W7 will always set the Users folders to read only by default, and it cannot be changed from Windows Explorer. I found this to be true in the new account I created: Templates folder was still read only.
If Atlantis ever comes out with an upgrade that includes tables, then I'll rethink my position. For right now, as the only user of my PC, I see no benefit in the current upgrade so I'll install the previous version. I suspect I'll need to get out my trusty carving knife and scrape the new version off the hard drive first (after safeguarding my ini files) but I'm not afraid.
Thanks again and best regards,
Paul
If you need the setup file of Atlantis Word Processor 1.6.5.7, click here {This file is not available on the server anymore}. But before you downgrade, please try the following:
1) Select "Tools | Options... > Save to File...", and save your Atlantis settings to an INI file.
2) Backup the "My documents\Atlantis" and "C:\Program Files\Atlantis" folders (zip them and put to another folder).
3) Uninstall Atlantis through Windows Control Panel.
4) Delete the "My documents\Atlantis" and "C:\Program Files\Atlantis" folders from your hard disk with a file manager.
5) Reinstall Atlantis 1.6.5.8 (download & run the latest setup).
Does the problem with the "Templates" folder persist?
1) Select "Tools | Options... > Save to File...", and save your Atlantis settings to an INI file.
2) Backup the "My documents\Atlantis" and "C:\Program Files\Atlantis" folders (zip them and put to another folder).
3) Uninstall Atlantis through Windows Control Panel.
4) Delete the "My documents\Atlantis" and "C:\Program Files\Atlantis" folders from your hard disk with a file manager.
5) Reinstall Atlantis 1.6.5.8 (download & run the latest setup).
Does the problem with the "Templates" folder persist?
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