Changing body text font only

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emcat
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Changing body text font only

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We have a document of 153pp single spaced. We'd like to change only the body font for the entire document and not any of the heads. Is there a way to do this easily? (my first query was not published so this is a second try.)
Thanks, Maggie
Robert
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Post by Robert »

Hi Maggie,
Are the heads associated with Heading-type styles? Or are they associated with specific font size(s) or font color(s)?
Or alternatively, does the body font have specific font size or font color?
emcat
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Post by emcat »

Robert wrote:Hi Maggie,
Are the heads associated with Heading-type styles? <...>
Yes they are.
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Post by Robert »

Are all of your "heads" associated with a Heading 1, Heading 2, Heading 3, Heading 4, Heading 5, etc. style, and only with these styles?
Are there styles derived from any of the Heading-type styles?
Are all of your "heads" associated with any specific font property (size, color, underline, highlight color, etc.)?
Are all of your "heads" associated with any specific common paragraph property (Spacing Before/After, Alignment, Line Spacing, etc.)?
Is the document body outside the "heads" associated with any specific font or paragraph property?
Any specifics would help tremendously!
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Post by emcat »

Robert wrote:Are all of your "heads" associated with a Heading 1, Heading 2, Heading 3, Heading 4, Heading 5, etc. style, and only with these styles?

The body is in Normal.
Heading 1, Heading 2, & Heading 3.
Footnote text.
TOC title and TOC 3
Robert wrote:Are there styles derived from any of the Heading-type styles?
No.
Robert wrote:Are all of your "heads" associated with any specific font property (size, color, underline, highlight color, etc.)?
All are default settings.
Robert wrote:Are all of your "heads" associated with any specific common paragraph property (Spacing Before/After, Alignment, Line Spacing, etc.)?
No.
Robert wrote:Is the document body outside the "heads" associated with any specific font or paragraph property?
Normal.
Robert wrote:Any specifics would help tremendously!
As an experiment we changed the TOC 3 format and then hit apply, which worked for that, but it's only the body text Normal which we want to change. Actually, we believe the reason Normal didn't work was because there wasn't a copy of Times New Roman on the machine (Linux) and it defaulted to Arial. When I received the mss to edit, I was horrified to see that the body text was sans serif - hard to read in running text. Lee was just writing away oblivious to that. I don't question the muse, just fix it later. :-D
Thanks, Robert, appreciate the help.
Maggie
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Post by Robert »

"Heading 1", "Heading 2", "Heading 3", "Normal" are style names. They could have any of the properties that can ever be applied by a style!
What's more, so-called "direct non-automatic formatting" can be manually added in the document window on top of the format applied by a style.
"Default" does not mean much, especially when the document was edited by different people in different word processors on different systems…
It would help if you could attach short excerpts from your document with at least one Heading 1, one Heading 2, one Heading 3 paragraph, and some of the "Normal" body text.
Failing that, here is what you could try:
1. First, make a backup of your original document.
2. Work on a copy in Atlantis.
3. Select a paragraph associated with the "Normal" style. Leave the selection AS IS.
4. Use the Atlantis main formatting toolbar to format the selected paragraph as desired (font and paragraph properties). Leave the selection AS IS.
5. Display the "Styles" panel of the Atlantis Control Board.
6. Select the "Normal" style in the "Styles" panel of the Atlantis Control Board.
7. On the small toolbar at the bottom of the "Styles" panel of the Atlantis Control Board, press the median button ("Update highlighted style to match document selection").

The paragraphs associated with the "Normal" style should now all be displaying with the desired properties.
HTH.
Robert
emcat
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Post by emcat »

You are amazing. I will try this a little later, the temperatures are going down and I have to get the hoses in now.

BTW, when I said Default, I meant the factory settings. Sorry. Only one creator of the document, and me as editor.

Thanks again.
Maggie
emcat
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Post by emcat »

Okay! We followed your instructions using the Control Board "Update style to match selection" and it worked perfectly.

Having said that, just before we did this, Lee updated her Linux version and the fonts appeared miraculously. When she opened the document Atlantis must have recognized that it didn't need to substitute any more and the body text was in fact, Times New Roman. Perfect.

But just to test out your fix, we followed all the steps on a copy of the document - changing it to a completely different font - and it worked as well.

Thanks so much for your time, Robert! Have a good evening.
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Post by Robert »

Glad I could help!

A few more tips:
Atlantis can be restored to its "Factory Settings", but this will only affect its own overall configuration. If anybody made changes to "Normal.rtf", which is the default template used when you press "Ctrl+N", these changes will stick after a restoration to "Factory Settings".

By the way, it is always preferable to avoid using the "Normal" style in any document. The "Normal" style is most of the time the style on which all other styles are based (derived). So if you make changes to the "Normal" style, these changes will invariably affect all derived styles. The "Normal" style should always be kept as the base style in the document style sheet, but it should not be applied in the document itself (by the way, this is a recommendation made by the MS Word MVPs).

So which style should you be associating with the "normal" text in your documents? Simply use the "Body Text" style. If you make changes to the "Body Text" style, it will only affect the associated paragraphs, and none other.
Cheers,
Robert
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Post by emcat »

So, in this document, how do we change the text labels from 'normal' to (what?) "body text"?

Maggie
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Post by Robert »

It is always best to use the "Body Text" style from scratch when you create a new document.
In your case, this is no longer possible. Here is how to go about it now:
1. Work on a copy of your document in Atlantis. You'll always be able to go back to the previous version.
2. Select a paragraph associated with the "Normal" style whose font and paragraph formatting is wholly as you would like your "Body Text" paragraphs to look like. Leave the selection AS IS.
3. Press "Ctrl+Shift+S". Leave everything AS IS.
4. Type "Body Text" from the keyboard.
5. Press "Enter".
6. You should get this sort of message from Atlantis:

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7. Answer "Yes". Atlantis will automatically create a new style with name "Body Text", and with the desired properties.
8. Display the "Styles" panel of the Atlantis Control Board.
9. Select the "Normal" style in the "Styles" panel of the Atlantis Control Board.
10. On the small toolbar at the bottom of the "Styles" panel of the Atlantis Control Board, press the rightmost button ("Select paragraphs associated with highlighted style"). Leave the selection AS IS in the document window.
11. Double-click the "Body Text" label in the "Styles" panel of the Atlantis Control Board.
Atlantis will apply the "Body Text" style to all the selected paragraphs. In other words, all the paragraphs that were associated with the "Normal" style will now be associated with the newly-created "Body Text" style.
HTH.
Robert
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